Code vs. No-code

Re:Code vs. No-code by sverhagen on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:39AM (#31845526)

I tried Appsmith, Budibase and a few others, because I had a need for some admin UI for a startup, and I thought that low-code would get me there quickly. I thought I could take a shortcut. I'm an experienced coder, so my biases surely play a role here. I was expecting these low-code tools to offer abstractions to make the effort for low-complexity problems very low (like the article suggests). Instead, I found that they were really just a point-and-click version of the code writing I'd otherwise do. All the complexity was still there (at which time the ergonomics of the tool becomes very important, and let's just say... that didn't help). I think the article is thus also flawed in some of its assumptions and conclusions.

There seems to be a rise of these low-code tools, and something good may certainly come from it. But when I looked at them (approx. 9 months ago), it just simply wasn't "there" yet. I also don't think that what they offer in 2022 is much better an experience than what I did in 2002 with Microsoft Access (which I've left behind me long since).

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Re:Code vs. No-code by victor9000 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:57AM (#31846257)

I wanted to love Appsmith but I kept running into telemetry code, including a hard coded segment id baked right into the base docker image. Sorry, but I can't defend your business needs during security review.

For example: https://github.com/appsmithorg/appsmith/blob/8edb278b755cc5f...

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Re:Code vs. No-code by mohanarpit on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:30AM (#31847180)

Disclaimer: I'm the creator of Appsmith.

First of all, thanks for trying out Appsmith and doing a security review. The link you pasted is actually an out-dated installation script that we used to use only for tracking if a user is facing errors during installation. This script has been deprecated approx 10 months ago. We should probably remove it from the code base as well to reduce confusions. Now, you can spin up a Docker container directly without having to go through any shell script.

Having said that, Appsmith doesn't track any PII data from an installation. Any & all telemetry within Appsmith is strictly opt-in. You can disable this as well when setting up Appsmith or any time afterwards. Please check https://docs.appsmith.com/telemetry#disable-telemetry for details.

We understand that security is paramount to users of Appsmith and thousands of teams use Appsmith to interact with sensitive data. Hence, we take data security very seriously. If you have any concerns about our security practices, I'd love to hear from you at security[at]appsmith.com. We will aim to fix any such concerns immediately within the product.

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