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Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by falcolas on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @01:35PM (#31826785)
If law - the human language equivalent of programming - hasn’t gotten simpler in past thousands of years as new abstractions and complications have arisen, I hold no hope for programming.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by djur on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:36PM (#31827417)
Surely the human language equivalent of programming is recipes and other types of written instructions. Law is far more abstract and subjective than programming.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by chongli on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:38PM (#31827439)
Law is opposed to these sorts of changes due to the business model of the law firm. In the law firm world billable hours are king. Automation reduces billable hours. No law firm wants to do that.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by oceanplexian on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @03:11PM (#31827876)
I think this really depends on what kind of firm you're talking about. You could make the same case for contractors i.e. "billable hours are king". Take the example where you need to paint a house. You could hire someone off the street who does it with a paintbrush and rollers or hire a pro with a sprayer and prep knowledge to do it in 1/4 the time and with 10x the quality.

In this context automation could be a tool that a law firm uses to enhance the quality of their product. Personally, I would pay more for a tech-savvy law firm that embraces automation, not less.

Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by chongli on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @07:32PM (#31830348)
A lot of contractors in painting/drywall do piecework rather than hourly. My roommate has been a drywall taper for 20+ years. When he quotes a job it’s a flat rate and then he tries to finish as fast as possible by using his best tools to speed up the job. On the other hand, if someone hires him on an hourly basis he puts away those fancy tools and does a lot more manual work, getting the job done slowly.

His rationale: why put wear and tear on his expensive tools if it’s just going to reduce his income in the end? Needless to say he prefers piecework because he likes to move from one job to the next as quickly as he can. He makes a lot more money that way.

Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by mberning on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:45PM (#31827513)
I think it has more to do with having an adversarial law system. It doesn’t matter what new tool you come up with in the arms race. Your competitor will soon have it as well.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by 6gvONxR4sf7o on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @03:20PM (#31827973)
Law is different in most places because the “execution model” isn’t intended to be a process, but is instead a mediated dispute.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by anamexis on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:27PM (#31827331)
Maybe they will converge, and all programs will be written in legalese and interpreted by Copilot.
Re:GitHub Copilot for individuals available without waitlist... by falcolas on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @04:43PM (#31828893)
A'la Ethereum's smart contracts?

Code isn't flexible enough to work for laymen. It feels like you need to be a developer and a lawyer to make a smart contract work as intended.

Maybe that works against my earlier premise, but I don't think that this is the way we want to go.