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Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by nailer on Monday June 20, 2022 @10:25AM (#31810714)
> Is the problem that the company you’re working for has bad managers?

No, obviously not.

> Is your goal to ensure that there are absolutely no bad managers in a company the size of Spotify?

No, obviously not.

I believe the OPs goal was improve a specific failing manager. I think he didn't do this very well, but let's not straw man him.

Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by addicted on Monday June 20, 2022 @11:00AM (#31811157)
I wasn’t responding to the OP but the idea that somehow changing managers is complacent and/or punting the problem to someone else.

Employees have 0 responsibility or incentive to improve their managers (the converse is not true). In fact, it’s a terrible idea to do so, because there’s probably only single digit % of managers who would take that positively, if even.

Especially if it isn’t the manager taking the initiative to ask for improvement ideas.

Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by nailer on Monday June 20, 2022 @11:42AM (#31811672)
> I wasn’t responding to the OP but the idea that somehow changing managers is complacent and/or punting the problem to someone else.

It isn't? Whoever inherits the role will have the same issues, so how isn't swapping teams punting the issue to someone else?

> Employees have 0 responsibility or incentive to improve their managers (the converse is not true).

Employees have a responsibility to make sure their job gets done, and can (and should) identify obstructions to that happening.

> there’s probably only single digit % of managers who would take that positively, if even.

'Managing up' is a well-known and fairly common skill at large companies.