A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed to work at Spotify

Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by darkerside on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:54AM (#31809194)

Honest question. Should we expect senior engineers to manage up properly? That means having mature and level headed conversations about where managers can improve in a way that makes both parties feel psychologically safe.

I would say yes, and that the author failed to do that here. I would also say the manager was clearly very weak, and that Spotify's bureaucracy may be producing suboptimal outcomes.

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Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by mugsie on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:59AM (#31809235)

I would say definitely - the OP did fail to manage up properly.

I think it is less of a part of the role for a senior engineer - Principal and over it is pretty much a core of your role - but it is something you should be doing.

The groundwork for doing it effectively comes from both sides however, and everyone sucks here for that.

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Re:A conflict with a manager ended with me being disallowed ... by watwut on Monday June 20, 2022 @08:41AM (#31809628)

> Should we expect senior engineers to manage up properly? That means having mature and level headed conversations about where managers can improve in a way that makes both parties feel psychologically safe.

I don't think we should expect miracles. But, based on this article, it seems to me that author was nowhere near that line. The mocking jira ticked seems like open hostility. You can be immature in reactions and still better then that.

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