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Re:Consciousness is not computation by red75prime on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:28AM (#31808117)
Any physical system with a component that you can throw away to make the system a more reliable computer is not a feasible implementation of an abstract computation. If you replace the iron bar with a quartz generator, reliability will increase by ten to the power of, say, quadrillion.
Re:Consciousness is not computation by walleeee on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:43AM (#31808671)
we threw away vacuum tubes and replaced them with semiconductors

this made computers more reliable

were the vacuum tube monstrosities not computers?

Re:Consciousness is not computation by red75prime on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:01AM (#31808801)
They were somewhat useful implementations of abstract computations, unlike "error in the first femtosecond" iron bar computer.

And vacuum tubes also played a crucial role in the process of computation, besides introduction of noise.