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Re:Consciousness is not computation by nobody9999 on Monday June 20, 2022 @12:38AM (#31806344)
>> That I am having a subjective experience is undeniable.

>If you wanted to go about proving (even to yourself) that you are not, say, an extremely advanced ML algorithm running on a system that provided synthetic inputs in the form of your senses, how would you go about it?

Not GP, but I too have come to the conclusion that I'm having a subjective experience.

Let's assume that I am "an extremely advanced ML algorithm running on a system that provided synthetic inputs in the form of your senses."

I'm still having a subjective experience over here -- even if it's not a "real" (whatever that means) one.

>To me, if it were "undeniable" these would be much easier things to do.

And that's your subjective experience. Welcome, friend.

Edit: Fixed typo.

Re:Consciousness is not computation by wizofaus on Monday June 20, 2022 @02:48AM (#31807069)
I'd say "I am having a subjective experience" is tautological - "subjective experience" are simply words we use to describe the state of being conscious.

Though I'd agree much (most?) of it is made up of very strong illusions.

Re:Consciousness is not computation by nobody9999 on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:24AM (#31808975)
>I'd say "I am having a subjective experience" is tautological - "subjective experience" are simply words we use to describe the state of being conscious.

Please read the comment I replied to. That should clear things up.

>Though I'd agree much (most?) of it is made up of very strong illusions.

Not illusions. A narrative.

cf. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31806425