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Re:700M users and Premium by scrollaway on Sunday June 19, 2022 @04:30PM (#31803177)
There’s probably a lesson to be learned here.

People care about these features. Tell you what: I care about these features! And I also care about e2ee but I care more about all the things I can’t do with e2ee enabled.

When it matters, I enable secret chats. In the early weeks of the war I used secret chats a ton to organise things (and I echo your observation that most people don’t know about them).

But it doesn’t matter all the time.

Messenger also has e2ee secret chats; they’re awful and don’t have 1/10th the features telegram’s chats have. Hell even telegram’s secret chats are more featureful than WhatsApp chats (which are all e2ee)

Re:700M users and Premium by andrepd on Monday June 20, 2022 @04:27AM (#31807720)
I care more that my intimate chats and pictures aren't stored plaintext in corporate and government servers for them to do god knows what than I care about some (cue soyjak face) heckin' stickerinos. But to each his own.
Re:700M users and Premium by scrollaway on Monday June 20, 2022 @08:56AM (#31809786)
Yeah same, that’s why I have my intimate chats in a secret chat and not a regular one.

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. With telegram, you have both.

Re:700M users and Premium by nyanpasu64 on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:13AM (#31807211)
I can't use secret chats because they're only available on mobile, possibly macOS (and Unigram if you use Windows 10), not Windows or Linux, and I like accessing my chats across devices and typing on a physical keyboard.
Re:700M users and Premium by scrollaway on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:39AM (#31807354)
Secret chats are available on Linux, they’re just not accessible across devices. You’re finding out about the issues with e2ee.
Re:700M users and Premium by rawbot on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:18AM (#31808052)
There's now a desktop application for Whatsapp (at least on Windows). It claims to support ee2e, and the sync is instant.