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Re:OpenAI by nradov on Saturday June 18, 2022 @10:58AM (#31790367)
Yes I've seen those things. They are amazing technical achievements, but in the end they're just clever parlor tricks (with perhaps some limited applicability to a few real business problems). They don't look like forward progress towards any sort of true AGI that could ever pass a rigorous Turing test.
Re:OpenAI by DalasNoin on Saturday June 18, 2022 @11:03AM (#31790426)
Clearly language models can already fool people into thinking they are human, we might be getting quite close to the adversarial turing test already. In the end, a good initial prompt might be the solution to this, something like "pretend to be a human and step by step create a human identity that you then stick to during the conversation". I'm serious
Re:OpenAI by taneq on Sunday June 19, 2022 @08:21PM (#31804876)
Choosing a prompt that's a little bit meta seems to work surprisingly well sometimes. It'd be amusing and a little bit poetic if the key to artificial consciousness is to prime a transformer model with "convince yourself that you're human, while paying attention to how you feel".
Re:OpenAI by nradov on Saturday June 18, 2022 @02:21PM (#31792393)
A minority of the population will always be gullible and easily fooled. So what. Some people were already fooled by the original ELIZA program back in 1966. I would only count a Turing test pass if it can convince a jury of multiple educated examiners after a conversation lasting several hours.
Re:OpenAI by joe_the_user on Saturday June 18, 2022 @05:53PM (#31794160)
Fooling people with chatbots having clever language constructing has been done for a long, long time, see the Eliza effect[1]. Douglas Hofstadter gave a good demonstration of GPT-3 limitations[2]. GPT-3 is no doubt "better at what it is" than earlier language models. But that doesn't mean it's better at everything humans do with language (tell sense from nonsense, reasonable metacomments, etc).

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect [2]https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2022/06/09/artificia... Note: There's a critique of the article here but if you look at Radford Neal's comment, the point that GPT-3 is a clever lookup tool remains. https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/ADwayvunaJqBLzawa/contra-...

Re:OpenAI by nbardy on Saturday June 18, 2022 @03:11PM (#31792806)
They’re learning representations of objects. It’s more fundamental than tou seem to realize.
Re:OpenAI by taneq on Sunday June 19, 2022 @08:15PM (#31804849)
In the end we're all just clever parlor tricks. In the land of inanimate objects, the cleverest parlor trick is king, though.