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Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by programmer_dude on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:27AM (#31752556)
Why? 10 seconds is not enough. It seems perfectly reasonable to assume Autopilot needs to do better here.
Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by robertlagrant on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:35AM (#31752657)
I disagree. How could a system look much further ahead in a dynamic environment?
Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by deschutes on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:43AM (#31752775)
This is exactly why level 2 systems will never be safe. The constraints set the human up to fail.
Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by zozbot234 on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @10:11AM (#31753162)
"Level 2" is just lane centering + adaptive cruise control. There's nothing about this combination that "sets the driver up to fail". Some drivers like to pretend that the system is way smarter than it really is, but that's a case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". You can't fix that with changes on the system side.
Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by giraffe_lady on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:42AM (#31752752)
If "as good as we can do" isn't good enough than it just isn't. If it can't offer enough time for a driver to reasonably take over then it can't meaningfully function in its intended role.

I'm not informed enough about this to say whether it falls under that threshold or even what that threshold is. But the limits being clear technical ones does not change the degree to which they are limits.

Re:Teslas running Autopilot have been in 273 crashes in less... by robertlagrant on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @04:52PM (#31759332)
What I mean is, can you imagine any system that can see 20s (say) ahead in terms of other people's driving? It's an eternity.