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Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by lordwarnut on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @05:08AM (#31750668)
It's a form of genital mutilation. It would be wrong to call it a non-issue. It is moral one at the least.

I have no issue with consenting adults getting circumcised for what ever reason they want too. A baby, however, cannot possibly consent to such a thing.

Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by danhau on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:16AM (#31751047)
> A baby, however, cannot possibly consent to such a thing.

Well, a baby cannot consent to anything. The parent's consent is the baby's consent.

Now I'm genuinely curious - I'm not affected, so I can't relate: Circumcision is genital mutilation, sure, but is it really "that" bad? Does it affect quality of life, from child to adult (excluding botched circumcisions)? Based on my understanding, I would rather focus on female genital mutilation in undeveloped parts of the world. In comparison, male circumcision seems to be ... ok. It's fine. Or is it? Please let me know.

(I'm not talking about the ignorance of infant's sense of pain here, that's clearly immoral).

Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by momenti on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @06:02AM (#31750982)
What matters the most is the cohesion, functioning and productivity of society, which is unaffected by circumcision.

The notion of consent is arbitrary. You could also regard religious cults as primary, then you would need their consent to imposing your personal aesthetics.

Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by LocalH on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:31AM (#31751495)
That mindset could be used to justify all sorts of barbarism. The beginning of humanity's downfall was when we invented "society"
Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by momenti on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @09:19AM (#31752447)
Actual barbarism would impair the functioning and productivity of society. The harm in this case is so negligible that it does not matter.
Re:Infants' sense of pain is recognized, finally (1987) by Doxin on Thursday June 16, 2022 @05:32AM (#31764061)
Smashing one in a hundred babies to death with a frying pan wouldn't impair the functioning or productivity of society either. Seems like a pretty poor way to measure barbarism to me.