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Re:Animal magic: why intelligence isn’t just for humans by bee_rider on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @04:01AM (#31750286)
Raccoons and bears have pretty impressive puzzle solving skills, as anyone who has tried to keep them out of a garbage can will note. Although bear strength is a bit of a crutch, there's also the whole escalating food puzzle game between them and hikers.

Cats, I think people just mistake their uncooperative nature for some sort of mysterious wise aloofness.

Re:Animal magic: why intelligence isn’t just for humans by samatman on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:55AM (#31751657)
It's not surprising that a crepuscular ambush predator is less intelligent than pack predators, it would be surprising if it were the other way around.

It's fascinating the replies I get claiming I must be a dog person. It's really... telling... when someone conflates intelligence and moral worth like that. I like cats. I'm not going to pretend they're as smart as dogs just because I like them.

Re:Animal magic: why intelligence isn’t just for humans by bee_rider on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @02:26PM (#31757139)
Hah, I had a whole long comment about how I was most impressed by pack hunters, but I somehow backed myself into a bunch of comments around how they must be smart enough to model each other's behavior, which in some ways seems similar to metacognition... until I realized I was in totally over my head and about to make a bunch of arguments about intelligence and animal behavior that I had no chance of backing up.

So, raccoons in the garbage.