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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @03:19PM (#31744623)
> It hurts the Russian, but the Russian lived in the Soviet Union and survived the Crazy 90s. They can suffer way more than Westerns spoiled by prosperity.

From the Mongol invasions to WWII to the Soviet Union, Russians have a lot of experience with collective suffering and deprivation.

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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by hdjjhhvvhga on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @04:13PM (#31745422)
Yes, but why? Why do these people have to suffer all the time?

One reason I heard my Russian friends repeating is that "it's a bit country so we need a strong ruler to keep it together". But history shows this is not true. Also a federation of states like the USA would probably work better than the current setup where a short guy from Moscow is sending Buryat boys to die in a country they haven't seen before.

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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by 5e92cb50239222b on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @04:29PM (#31745613)
> a federation of states like the USA would probably work better than the current setup where a short guy from Moscow is sending Buryat boys to die in a country they haven't seen before

Excuse my ignorance… but how is it different from a tall guy from Connecticut sending, I dunno, Montana boys to die in a country they haven't even heard of? I'm just trying to understand the difference.

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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @05:44PM (#31746446)
History does not show this is true.

Russia has historically been invaded by such people as Genghis Khan(actually his grandson, Tamerlane, Napoleon, Charles )I forget which one) of Sweden, and Hitler.

The USA on the other hand is protected by two oceans and has not had a foreign army on the continent since 1815.

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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by hdjjhhvvhga on Wednesday June 15, 2022 @07:14AM (#31751367)
What I mean is the attitude of the rulers toward their own people, not other countries, these are two separate things. In Russia, you basically have a long history of peasants and common folk trying to get free and the tsars suppressing them. Finally in 1917 they managed to overthrow their ruler only to discover they had been duped again, and the red tsardom was even worse than the white one. And it basically never ended: most Russians have never had a chance to live in a free country. And for some reason they stopped rebelling [0].

[0] Some people blame the spirits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK7l55ZOVIc

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Re:US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease fo... by rasz on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @06:37PM (#31746891)
>Russia has historically been invaded by such people as Genghis Khan(actually his grandson, Tamerlane, Napoleon, Charles )I forget which one) of Sweden, and Hitler.

here is a fun one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_occu... Russia really doesnt like the fact Poland not only occupied Moscow, but also got Kings son elected Tzar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_monarchs#Tsars...

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