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Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by kelseyfrog on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:50PM (#31742194)
People dying is a small price to pay for free speech.

Of course, if everyone died and the last person was able to speak freely, it would be worth it.

Everything else is trading safety for liberty.

Slippery slopes of free speech crackdowns inevitably lead to loss of liberty.

Leave if you don't like it.

Absolutism in free speech is the only justifiable position.

Welcome to debate.

Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by shadowgovt on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:59PM (#31742366)
That's probably the most absolutist statement of the concept I've ever seen; my respect for posting it plainly.

In this form, it's easy to show the flaw in this line of thought, because it concludes with literal extermination of the species ("the last person" implies no further people). And if a right leads to extermination of the species, what good was that right in the first place?

All rights have a balance point. Most hinge on where the rights of others begin. The freedom of speech (in the form of criticism of power) has massive value to the formation and maintenance of a free society, which is why some nations protect it so zealously. But even those nations have recognized its constraint in various contexts.

The position described here is a fringe position and should remain one to maximize the value of free speech.

Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by djkoolaide on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:55PM (#31742304)
Genuinely can't tell whether this is irony or frightening sincerity.
Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by kelseyfrog on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @01:02PM (#31742419)
edited for clarity.
Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by tangjurine on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:59PM (#31742368)
>If everyone died and the last person was able to speak freely, it would be worth it.

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Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by aluminum96 on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @01:00PM (#31742373)
> People dying is a small price to pay for free speech.

Well, that depends on the amount of dying and the kind of speech.

Re:Japan passes revised penal code with harsher punishment f... by rnd0 on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:52PM (#31742242)
>People dying is a small price to pay for free speech.

Easy to say when it's not you doing the dying.