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Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by dane-pgp on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:20PM (#31730352)
Safari?[0] It's especially a problem when Apple don't allow other browser engines on its devices, although governments are looking into that.[1]

[0] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/22/safari_risks_becoming...

[1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/10/uk-antitrust-agen...

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by innocenat on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:48PM (#31730802)
My only wish is that Apple make it easy to run Safari, both latest version and older version, on non-Apple device.

I have had a design that broke only on Safari, and I would be at my wit end on how to fix it if I didn't have a Mac on hand.

Even Microsoft still provide VM with IE8 [0] for testing purpose.

0: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/v...

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by Beltalowda on Monday June 13, 2022 @04:44PM (#31731546)
> I have had a design that broke only on Safari, and I would be at my wit end on how to fix it if I didn't have a Mac on hand.

I use BrowserStack for it; for just one issue a trail account is enough, if you use it for an open source project you can request free access, and for a business it's relatively cheap.

I've got a pro account for a few of my open source projects; I don't often use it, but have on occasion (for things like you describe, and I don't have a Mac on hand).

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by recursive on Monday June 13, 2022 @05:05PM (#31731752)
I have a macbook on my desk. The only reason it's here is to run Safari a couple of times a year when something crazy happens.

Some time in the last couple of years, it needed an OS update that took a couple of resident Apple experts to get through.

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by jmull on Monday June 13, 2022 @05:23PM (#31731942)
Moving to a monobrowser internet... What could go wrong?

Edit: oh, I should add:

The main data from your first source is out-of-date... Here's the dashboard today: https://wpt.fyi/compat2021?feature=summary&stable

Your second source is more of an argument to keep Safari around. If the Chrome/Safari duopoly on mobile is a problem, getting rid of Safari makes it worse.

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by ash_gti on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:27PM (#31730460)
I dunno, then there would only be 2 actively maintained browser engines, Chrome and Firefox.

Webkit is doing pretty good on https://wpt.fyi/interop-2022 so I'm not sure why Safari should be retired.

Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by 0x0 on Monday June 13, 2022 @04:39PM (#31731481)
The problem is a mountain of older ipads and iphones and ipods that aren't eligible for the latest major ios upgrades, and thus get stuck with an outdated safari/wkwebview/webkit implementation. This is only going to get worse as the EOL'd ipads these days are quite powerful and usable otherwise. And due to Apple policies banning bring-your-own-html-engine, firefox or chrome can't save them either :(
Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by presentation on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:38PM (#31730632)
Most of my Safari compat issues are on older iOS devices that don't get Safari upgrades, for better or worse those devices do last a long time and a lot of people resist upgrading Mac software.
Re:Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days by exyi on Monday June 13, 2022 @03:40PM (#31730666)
At least it definitely shouldn't be the only available browser. So we could say that the Safari monopoly should be gone