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Re:LaMDA is not sentient by JKCalhoun on Monday June 13, 2022 @01:41PM (#31728798)
> Sure, a minority of us know it is simply maths and vast amounts of training data...

You could be describing my brain as well.

Re:LaMDA is not sentient by robbomacrae on Monday June 13, 2022 @02:25PM (#31729403)
Perhaps. Maybe our brains are just an algorithm and data, maybe (for all I know) you are a bot, maybe we are all a simulation.

I think these sort of arguments (assuming you meant the first - that brains are just maths) that equate our thinking with a neural network are hard to deny but also we have thousands of years of history that have established that suffering is real and conscious, whilst debatably imaginary, is at least a consideration.

I therefore argue we must, for example, maintain a massive distinction between the morals of turning off a human brain vs turning off a neural network.

The calculations and output of the neural network could be achieved with pen and paper (albeit it might take years). I doubt a human brains workings could ever be calculated that way.

Re:LaMDA is not sentient by null_shift on Monday June 13, 2022 @04:22PM (#31731271)
Interesting last thought. I have long wondered whether our brains are fully “deterministic”, but I assume that would be nearly impossible to verify for a device with such complex state and varied input.