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Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by _aavaa_ on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:28AM (#31725263)
> Cryptocurrencies can be held in offline wallets i.e non-custodial hardware or software wallets, like Metamask, Trust Wallet, Ledger Nano, Tezos etc.

They can, but if you'd like to convert that into fiat (I know a dirty word) you will most likely need an exchange.

Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by PinguTS on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:40AM (#31725403)
Not only fiat. You need them also to convert it into any other crypto.
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by rglullis on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:47AM (#31725501)
Here you go, a whole list of decentralized crypto exchanges: https://www.coingecko.com/en/dex
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by PinguTS on Monday June 13, 2022 @10:02AM (#31725713)
You mean a list of distributed exchanges.

Its like a list of all the small shop money exchanges that exists. But it doesn't mean its decentralized. It also means you always need a trusted third party for the exchange.

Wasn't crypto about going rid of those trusted third parties?

Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by rglullis on Monday June 13, 2022 @10:15AM (#31725909)
No, I mean actual decentralized exchanges. They are applications running on the blockchain. There is no owner, no physical location, no entity controlling access. All you need to do is have a crypto wallet and execute the contracts.
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by throwaway2048 on Monday June 13, 2022 @02:38PM (#31729644)
no automatic blockchain contract can provide you with USD
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by rglullis on Monday June 13, 2022 @02:54PM (#31729933)
That was not what OP was asking for.
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by FabHK on Monday June 13, 2022 @11:59AM (#31727337)
Can you trade BTC/USDC or BTC/ETH on any of them?
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by rglullis on Monday June 13, 2022 @12:41PM (#31727967)
Yes. You can trade one of the many ERC-20 tokens that wrap bitcoin (e.g, WBTC, renBTC) and later you can swap these tokens for "real" BTC, also just by executing the smart contracts from the wrappers.
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by FabHK on Monday June 13, 2022 @01:33PM (#31728700)
Thanks. Do you have some good link to explain the mechanics, particularly the "unwrapping" of eg. WBTC? That involves a trusted third party, doesn't it?
Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by rglullis on Monday June 13, 2022 @02:37PM (#31729625)
> That involves a trusted third party, doesn't it?

For most cases, yes. Binance, Gemini and some others provide a version of their token that can run in multiple chains. It's supposed to be 1:1 backed by BTC, but you have to trust them fully.

It's a little bit better for WBTC [0]. WBTC is a consortium of 30+ crypto projects who keep the BTC under their control through a multi-sig wallet, and that can be audited on-chain. In this case, the majority of the signers would have to conspire in order to steal the funds or do anything malicious.

renBTC is even more decentralized. It is part of the ren "network" [1], which provides inter-blockchain applications. I haven't looked yet how it works exactly, but my understanding is custody of BTC happens though a proper dapp. Last year I wanted to get rid of all my BTC, and I did it though ren. It was BTC -> renBTC -> DAI.

[0]: https://wbtc.network

[1]: https://renproject.io

Re:Temporary pause of Bitcoin withdrawals on Binance by doodles33 on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:48AM (#31725509)
Atomic swaps exist