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Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by lancebeet on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:06AM (#31723267)
Unemployment sure doesn't seem to be a big issue for front-end developers in Denmark.
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by Izmaki on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:14AM (#31723317)
Anything that allows you to pocket a starting salary of 36k / month fresh from a B.Sc. does not have a problem with unemployment, lol...
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by tokai on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:57AM (#31723652)
The job marked for B.Sc.'s is actually quite small in Denmark. Everybody takes a master.
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by Izmaki on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:47PM (#31732708)
In IT it's different. 9/10 software development, DevOps, System/Network/Security Engineering, and so forth jobs I've seen have required just a bachelors degree. Other fields are likely different.
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by McBeige on Monday June 13, 2022 @08:50AM (#31724799)
Would you mind sharing where I can read about this? It's going to be important for my upcoming career choices.
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by tokai on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:20AM (#31725171)
Newsblog post from Aalborg Uni with a good overview of the issue: https://www.careers.aau.dk/nyheder/vis/snart-bachelor---hvad...

The ministry of research and education's page about their project to develop the job market for bscs.: https://ufm.dk/uddannelse/videregaende-uddannelse/fleksible-...

It's not like its impossible to get a job with a bachelor. Almost all companies and institutions will just automaticity look for master graduates, and you might have to educate them about the benefits of getting the same capabilities for a lower pay.

Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by mrweasel on Monday June 13, 2022 @09:20AM (#31725162)
I don't have any statistics on this, but when I studied computer science 20 years ago, nobody stopped at the B.Sc. Depending on the university, it's basically only another year, writing one or two papers, and then a year, either doing the same or the equivalent of a minor, where you're just doing the first year of the B.Sc. in some other field.

One issue you might encounter is that Danish IT companies are obsessed with hiring people with a masters, even if the job doesn't even require a B.Sc. Most of the jobs in the industry could be fulfilled by people from trade-schools or other shorter educations. Companies just seem to have this idea that they need engineers or people with a masters in computer science, even if their product is just some CRUD application.

Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by Izmaki on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:52PM (#31732755)
Things have changed. You can get far with just a bachelors degree, if you are open to working other places than Big Four and corporations with tens of thousands of employees. I have anyway, and I'm only 10 years behind you. If you move into InfoSec the requirements for degrees are even smaller, at the end of the day.

Also how much is a masters degree even worth after a handful of years of relevant experience anyway? Not much...

Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by googlryas on Monday June 13, 2022 @04:28PM (#31731343)
Is that take home per month or pre-tax and all that?
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by Izmaki on Monday June 13, 2022 @06:54PM (#31732764)
36,000 DKK. before taxes give or take 2000 is the average starting salary for people fresh from university, in Software Development, System/network engineering, DevOps, Security and those kinds of IT areas. The nerdy stuff.
Re:Engage with an unemployment algorithm by PeterStuer on Monday June 13, 2022 @07:23AM (#31723879)
Even when you are over 56?