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Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by onion2k on Sunday June 12, 2022 @01:35AM (#31711738)
Once you have drive-by-wire and a sensor array, self-driving is a pure software problem.

This is correct, but only if you have the right drive-by-wire and sensor array tech. Essentially what you're saying is "Once you solve the hardware problem the rest is just software" which isn't particularly insightful.

What happens if Tesla can't solve the software problem because the sensors aren't providing the necessary data?

Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by javajosh on Sunday June 12, 2022 @09:43AM (#31714436)
>what you're saying .. which isn't particularly insightful.

Which was my point. I'm intentionally making silly arguments that are valid from first principles, but clearly wrong in the real world. I'm sorry that wasn't obvious because I endeavored to make it so.

Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by rossmohax on Sunday June 12, 2022 @05:59AM (#31713308)
add more inaccurate sensors and do corrections in software? We have photos of black holes out of almost a pure noise, surely it is possible to build self driving car with current gen of hardware.
Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by onion2k on Sunday June 12, 2022 @06:41AM (#31713489)
add more inaccurate sensors

The point here is that Tesla have already sold the $10k FSD sensor pack to people and told them that one day in the future a software update will provide FSD, with no additional sensors necessary. Adding more sensors is not an option (well, maybe Tesla will do that for people who bought the upgrade, but it seems unlikely they'd do that for free.)

Re:US moves closer to recalling Tesla’s self-driving software by polygamous_bat on Sunday June 12, 2022 @07:53AM (#31713815)
One part of the argument you are missing is that FSD requires real-time decision making as well, so when complexity goes up with a larger number of inaccurate sensors that can become an issue. No one cares if getting a picture of a black hole from noisy data takes one year to process, the same is not true for self driving.