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Re:Explosion at US natural gas plant raises risk of shortage... by gruez on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:06PM (#31706069)
> It feels like the plan has always been to price the working class off the roads, with no alternative beyond walking or cycling.

But why? How does it benefit them? The "oil companies lobbying in the US to make car-free lifestyle difficult" conspiracy makes sense because it benefits them, but how does it benefit the elite in europe to "price the working class off the roads, with no alternative beyond walking or cycling"?

Re:Explosion at US natural gas plant raises risk of shortage... by a2tech on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:29PM (#31706269)
Crowd the working class into cities while you retreat to your private mountain or estate in the country? Keep all the icky poors away from your sight?
Re:Explosion at US natural gas plant raises risk of shortage... by saiya-jin on Saturday June 11, 2022 @02:53PM (#31707099)
that... doesn't make any sense in 21st century at all, no matter how I look into it. I get it, people are pissed off, envious etc. but lets have some rational discussion and not just spit class hate left and right because it feels good (or whatever motivation is there)
Re:Explosion at US natural gas plant raises risk of shortage... by bluescrn on Saturday June 11, 2022 @03:54PM (#31707704)
If you want to 'save the planet' by massively reducing road travel, you need to relocate the masses into very dense cities, places where public transport can work, where life without cars is practical.

As an added bonus, they're all now crammed into tiny apartments that don't require much carbon emission to heat or cool, and where they don't have space for many physical possessions (less consumption of physical resources, more spend/profits on digital/virtual products)

Meanwhile, the elite can have even more massive rural estates, and drive their luxury EVs on a near-empty road network to and from their private jets.

The problem comes when all the forced-city-dwellers want to escape their urban prison at the weekends... With real travel unaffordable if not outright prohibited, I guess that'll be where the 'metaverse' comes in?...

Re:Explosion at US natural gas plant raises risk of shortage... by mensetmanusman on Saturday June 11, 2022 @03:30PM (#31707474)
Ideologies are driving forces.

There doesn’t have to be a reason why someone believes in it.