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Re:Rulex – A new, portable, regular expression language by dan-dev on Friday June 10, 2022 @02:32PM (#31697761)
Oh well, first of, thank you for writing ripgrep! Great work, love that tool and use it daily :)

All good, thank you for sharing your POV! I find both theory and the practical engineering feats quite interesting, and actually understood the original question as a theoretical question, not a question about general-purpose regex engine. Quite possibly that this is even how the asking person was intending it, in hindsight.

Last thing on topic (talking now about having complement and unicode in a usable regex engine): My personal, gut-feeling-based hunch is that by adding all these features not strictly related to regular languages, we kind of evolved our regex enginges and expectations towards them into a corner of the design space that works well, but might not work well when one adds complement. It feels like a constructivist world without negation and stuff on top that works, and reverse-engineering what works with negation and what not will likely be hard work. As a theory-ish kind of person (without much insight into regexes or formal grammars), I wish there would be some kind of insight into what are the atoms of a regex and which atoms can be combined witch which other atoms - I would bet that fancyFeatures and unicode+complement would have a high algorithmic complexity already in theory.

Any final tipps on the repo I linked to not disappoint users expectations? :)

Re:Rulex – A new, portable, regular expression language by burntsushi on Friday June 10, 2022 @02:50PM (#31697990)
I think you got it right by putting "university project" in the description. :-) I wrote my fair share of projects like that too.

The incentive structure of academia that leads to software like that, though, is also a big reason why I left. The theory is super important (that's why I work on a regex engine that only provides support for regular languages), but I also think the engineering aspect is just as important. And academia, or at least the corner I was in, just did not care about the engineering side of things at all. This in turn leads to publishing results that are hard to reproduce, because if you don't share code that is at least somewhat robust, it's going to be very costly for someone else to build on your work.

Anyway, sorry about the side rant haha. But all good.

Re:Rulex – A new, portable, regular expression language by dan-dev on Saturday June 11, 2022 @08:20AM (#31703936)
All good! And sorry for not making the effort to understand your position first, I want to work on that.

> The incentive structure of academia that leads to software like that, though, is also a big reason why I left. The theory is super important (that's why I work on a regex engine that only provides support for regular languages), but I also think the engineering aspect is just as important. And academia, or at least the corner I was in, just did not care about the engineering side of things at all. This in turn leads to publishing results that are hard to reproduce, because if you don't share code that is at least somewhat robust, it's going to be very costly for someone else to build on your work.

Totally get it. This also baffles me - papers in computer science that are hard to reproduce? Yes I know, publish or perish and all that BS. But I don't want to accept this: I mean I get it for psychology obviously, and then also material sciences and so on, but for compsci?... Next to proofs, programs are probably one of the most reproducible things that nature has given given us.

Good for me and many others that you cho(o)se to spend your time on building tools :)

Re:Rulex – A new, portable, regular expression language by avgcorrection on Saturday June 11, 2022 @05:01PM (#31708355)
Best not to get uppity on the subject of regexp when confronted with the great burntsushi… he can get irate.