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Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by watwut on Friday June 10, 2022 @10:13AM (#31694510)
China itself is colonial power - to these days.

> You also have to realise that To non-europeans, for example folks in China, Nazi germany didn't look like 'absolute evil', it looked like a yet another war between colonial powers.

China land was literally occupied by Japanies who fought on the German side and joined the allies. China fought in that war and lost quite a lot of people in that war.

Ad Turkey: It is one thing to stay aside of genocide far away, it is another thing to demand credit for fighting genocide when it is clear who won.

> The point is not to agree or disagree with this worldview, but you have to realise that world events don't look the same from dofferent corners.

Those other corners don't get to lie about places away from them or history while ranking up own aggression.

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by ClumsyPilot on Friday June 10, 2022 @06:12PM (#31699951)
> Those other corners don't get to lie about places away from them or history while ranking up own aggression.

This is pot / kettle black. It's not like none of this happens over here.

If you open a typical British or US history textbook, it omits or glances over most of the atrocious and dark parts of it's history.

As a result most population is unaware of their scale, or sometimes unaware of them at all. That's how you get false narratives in politics, usually nationalist ones. In my experience a typical brexit supporting person has never heard of half the stuff that was going on in the colonies.

Re:No Army? No Problem: Defending the Home Front in Ancient ... by watwut on Sunday June 12, 2022 @03:24PM (#31717435)
Sure and that is bad too and perfectly fine to point out in that context.

That does not mean it is suddenly honorable when Turkey do it right now. Or that we have to accept similar behavior from everyone else without pointing it out.