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Re:Top F1 designer says auto industry moving in wrong direct... by wing-_-nuts on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @03:08PM (#31672454)
If I lived in a perfect world with universal bike lanes and drivers that were actually mindful of cyclists and gave them space, I'd gladly do most of my errands with a cargo ebike. Sadly we do not live in that world. Cycling on public streets with real traffic is signing up for a lot of stress and a not insignificant chance of bodily harm. Until that's fixed with infrastructure changes on par with what they have in the Netherlands, I make my peace with using a 2T machine.
Re:Top F1 designer says auto industry moving in wrong direct... by majewsky on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @03:31PM (#31672787)
How did it actually go in the Netherlands? Was it "better bike infrastructure -> more bike usage" like you suggest? Or was it the other way around?
Re:Top F1 designer says auto industry moving in wrong direct... by rocgf on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @04:36PM (#31673678)
It was both. The Netherlands had relatively high bike usage before "the cycling revolution" in the 70s, but either way it's kind of a moot point.

Either way, if you're trying to insinuate that you first need the bikes and then the infrastructure, you're going to have a hard time finding good arguments.

Re:Top F1 designer says auto industry moving in wrong direct... by balaji1 on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @08:11PM (#31676121)
is there a case for electric bikes? I enjoy electric bikes. It seems to add significant functionality (and I find it super fun), without changing much of the characteristics of a bicycle, biking itself (except maybe slightly more risky) and infra to charge bikes would be much more scalable.