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Re:Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 ... by yobbo on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @10:38AM (#31668016)
Read somewhere that a litre of milk in northern Europe costs around a kW/h in energy to produce. Whatever the exact number, it should open your eyes to the importance of energy prices on all other prices. It's not "just" transports.
Re:Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 ... by spurgu on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @12:43PM (#31670035)
Money = energy (while credit being a promise on future energy).

Cheap energy is how we've created our society. The (huge) problem we're facing is that our economy is based on the (incorrect) assessment that we will have an ever-increasing supply of energy. Barring some miracle invention/discovery (like fission, or a cheap way to produce hydrogen) it's rather the opposite, at least in terms of EROEI.

The difference between the monetary economy and the real economy is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore.

Re:Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 ... by ephbit on Thursday June 09, 2022 @10:20AM (#31681494)
> Cheap energy is how we've created our society.

Agree.

> The (huge) problem we're facing is that our economy is based on the (incorrect) assessment that we will have an ever-increasing supply of energy.

I'd add to that: the problem isn't so much that energy sources are currently running out. We've still got decades of fossil fuels left over to run the existing economy.

This makes the problem even harder to solve. We do have the energy. It sits right there, tempting states to grant permission to use it. But states ought to refrain from using it because the ecosphere/climate is in danger.

States globally switching to renewable energy would be much easier than it is (almost effortless), if we were truly running out of fossil energy.

As things are, states that undertake the enormous effort to make the transition to renewables, are at an economic disadvantage, at least in the short-term.

Thus the one big challenge is the political one, of setting up an international treaty that somehow turns this economic disadvantage into incentives for the transition.

Re:Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 ... by spurgu on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @03:11PM (#31672496)
*fusion obv.
Re:Estonia clocks fastest inflation in the Eurozone at 20.1 ... by supertrope on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @11:05AM (#31668410)
There's one perspective that all value added in the economy is the result of energy input. De-industrialization and off shoring of heavy industry has allowed G7 countries to decrease energy/GDP ratio, but the total amount of energy consumed increases, only decreasing slightly during a recession.