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Re:Ultrasonic Payments by jackson1442 on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @10:31PM (#31662537)
This specific demo doesn't actually send payment data over audio, just a link to pay from. Post-payment would still go though signed stripe webhooks like a normal online payment.

Seems like an interesting way to start a transaction without needing to buy any specialized equipment.

Re:Ultrasonic Payments by mikeiz404 on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @01:15AM (#31663492)
You don’t need to read the payment data. I think a phishing/spoofing attempt may be possible by playing a louder or directional ultrasonic message to introduce an alternate payment url. Or you may be able to accomplish a denial of service via jamming.

(If some one knows more, please step in and comment.) I’m guessing some of these could be issues with NFC too but from what I have skimmed online it seems both the tag and receiver would need to be modified to work at larger than normal distances of “1-5cm”[1]. Also much more power is needed to extend the range of NFC than sound since sound strength diminishes with the square of the distance and, from what I have skimmed, magnetic induction used by nearfield NFC diminishes with the cube of the distance [2][3].

1: https://seritag.com/learn/using-nfc/nfc-tag-scan-distance-ex...

2: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/magnetic-field-strengt...

3: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/44037/why-is-nea...

Re:Ultrasonic Payments by heretogetout on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:44PM (#31662954)
Like an audio QR code, I guess.