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Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @07:08PM (#31661153)
Last i knew, Google hadn’t updated Authenticator in years. Maybe it’s a mature product and doesn’t need updating, but given Google’s history of dropping projects, I moved from Google AuthenticTor to Authy (by Twilio, an enormous company not fly-by-night)
Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life by atleta on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:15PM (#31661672)
Well, Google Authenticator uses a standard, well documented algorithm (TOTP) and there is really no reason to touch it unless they discover a security issue, it becomes incompatible with the latest version of android or there is a pressing need to improve the UX. But the UX is pretty simple.

I also have Authy, because that seems to be the only one that SendGrid will work with, but exactly because of this I thought that was non-standard. But as I can see now, they probably also support standard TOTP. But they rely on SMS for initial authenticaion (when you install or re-install the app) and I don't trust that. On a side note, Microsoft also has an Authenticator app, which also supports the TOTP standard. (So it can work wherever you would use the Google Authenticator.)

Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @09:31PM (#31662232)
> But they rely on SMS for initial authenticaion (when you install or re-install the app)

It's been a long time since I installed it, so I'll take your word for it. They have my email address displayed in the app, so maybe I can do authentication on a new device over email, too. But regardless of how you initially authenticate a reinstall (email or SMS), as long as you are using the Authy cloud backup -- which is password-protected and cannot be reset over SMS or email -- what is your concern (genuine question)? I do not see the security risk, but I'm no expert.

Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life by atleta on Sunday June 12, 2022 @08:34PM (#31719663)
Mainly the SMS thing. As far as I can remember, when I reinstalled it on my new phone (about a year ago) I just had to verify my phone number via the SMS they sent.

Also, as I have already been using the Google Auth app, I was somewhat ignorant to check out Authy more in detail. Up to know I thought it wasn't using standard TOTP but some in-house developed algorithm by Twilio (or maybe a lesser known/less standard one) because SendGrid specifically tells you to use Authy. Which in itself seemed like a red flag.