> You don't know if the place you are storing it is doing so in plain text, storing a decryption key right next to it, etc.
Any service that is storing passwords in plain text is probably not implementing 2FA in an safe way, either.
Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life
by LocalPCGuy on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @05:15PM
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That really isn't an argument against my point, that it's very hard to verify what is happening once you click submit with your password.
Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life
by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @07:14PM
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Password-only authentication still has its uses. I don’t want to use 2FA when I’m logging into a website I’ll use once and never again and does not have any private info about me, maybe to post a comment for example. Or try a service they are demoing.
Re:I've locked myself out of my digital life
by LocalPCGuy on Wednesday June 08, 2022 @05:15PM
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Those are totally valid use cases. In no way was I saying everything had to offer 2FA. Just pointing out that it is not just for those that don't know how to craft strong passwords or those that practice poor security hygiene, that it is a useful option to have when security is important.
I don't claim 2FA is perfect, it has its own host of issues as is being discussed. But it isn't just for "the masses that don't understand how to make strong passwords or how to be secure". Certs are good, but they need to be made simpler than they are now for the very people you claim 2FA is for or they won't be adopted (one of the reasons they aren't more ubiquitous, IMO). And some certs implementations have issues with account recovery as well if you lose access to them.
It's a really hard problem that you do a bit of disservice to when you dismiss it as "just a problem of the plebes".