Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by uberdru on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @10:44AM
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seriously did not think we would see homomorphic encryption productized for a few more years. pretty impressive!
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Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by 8jy89hui on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @10:46AM
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> Some of the existing tools, such as homomorphic encryption or secure enclaves have performance unsuited to scalable encrypted search, require proprietary hardware, or have uncertain security properties.
I don't think this is exactly homomorphic. I hope they put out a whitepaper so researchers can properly evaluate its security.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by uberdru on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:08AM
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Nice catch, I was scanning for homomorphic encryption, but missed this. Have no idea how else they would implement this.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by muchpir on Sunday June 19, 2022 @12:40AM
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Homomorphic Encryption is available at large scale today for limited use cases.
See the MuchPIR project (https://github.com/ReverseControl/MuchPIR) which implements Information-Theoretic Private Information Retrieval (IT-PIR) in Postgresql; In addition to the demo there is a high performance version available for commercial use.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by dandraper on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:20AM
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Its not Homomorphic but "structural encryption". Less useful than HE but faster.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by snorkel on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @12:13PM
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Correct. It's not homomorphic encryption, but rather more like TDE (Transparent Data Encryption) except that MongoDB service isn't decrypting the data. This is essentially client-side encryption (at the driver) and without server-side decryption.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by cvwright on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @12:06PM
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Faster has a usefulness all its own
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by dandraper on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:05PM
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Absolutely! FHE isn't practical for most applications.
Re:MongoDB Releases Queryable Encryption Preview
by samwillis on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @11:07AM
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Homomorphic encryption allows you to modify the encrypted data without decrypting it or even knowing the the content. I don’t think this is homomorphic encryption.
If they are able to do this without decrypting the data then I think you could describe this as a somewhat week encryption that exposes some data attributes as queryable. You could not implement this with strong encryption without at least decrypting for indexing.