Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by yellowapple on Monday June 06, 2022 @06:45PM
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See, this reads like an absolute dystopia to me, like a late-stage capitalist endgame. With the WEF being a bunch of hypercapitalists, it ain't too surprising that they'd pitch it as utopia instead.
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Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by codefreeordie on Monday June 06, 2022 @07:06PM
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I'm not convinced that WEF is a bunch of capitalists of any kind, but they definitely are working hard to both create and sell a world where nobody other than their membership has any capital.
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by runes on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:37PM
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they distribute ideology but I strongly doubt they possess it. the "which -ist?" question works to their favor (and has for a long time).
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by yellowapple on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:05PM
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That would be the capitalist endgame, yep. Or feudalist, if you prefer, but at the end of the day it's pigmeat v. pork; either way, you've got a tiny elite who owns (as close as possible to) everything and rents it back out to everyone else (who pays with their labor, be it directly as serfs or indirectly via their wages).
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by proc0 on Monday June 06, 2022 @07:08PM
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This sounds like late stage techno-communism. I'm pretty sure owning things is at the core of capitalism.
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by ycombigator on Monday June 06, 2022 @07:21PM
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Some people still own things, just not you.
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by proc0 on Monday June 06, 2022 @07:25PM
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Just like communism in practice. We can look at Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, USSR, etc, where the top elite certainly own things, just not the general public.
Re:Welcome to 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy and Life ...
by yellowapple on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:17PM
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It's almost as if using a term meaning "a classless, stateless, and moneyless society" to describe societies which are precisely none of those things (in theory, let alone in practice) ain't a sign of intelligence or rationality - be it among those calling themselves "communist" or the ones taking their claim at face value.
A society wherein "the top elite certainly own things, just not the general public" is the capitalist endgame; the goal is to maximize profit/wealth, and being one of the lucky few who owns everything and rents it all back out to the masses is a damn good way of going about that.