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Re:Apple Unveils M2 by msbarnett on Monday June 06, 2022 @03:12PM (#31644602)
They're only 1 process node ahead of Intel. Intel 10nm is roughly equivalent transistor density as TSMC 7nm. The M1 was TSMC 5nm.

And given that there's no way a single process node jump is going to give Intel a 75% uplift in instruction per clock (2 nodes wouldn't give them that either, for that matter), Intel is going to have to clock higher for comparable performance and that's still going to put them behind on power consumption (which is exponential in clock speed).

Which is to say, it's completely untrue that the only reason these chips look good for speed/power-consumption is the process node they're on. Apple came up with a super-wide architecture (way wider than anything we've ever seen in x86-64), and they made it pay off by getting good performance out of a much lower maximum clock, which bought them a ton of power efficiency.

Re:Apple Unveils M2 by vitalyx on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @03:05PM (#31658711)
It seems like people just repeating this over and over but is there anything to back it up? Do we have a 12th gen Intel chip with a known die size and transistor count? Seems like Intel is deliberately coy about this. I gave up looking.
Re:Apple Unveils M2 by teilo on Monday June 06, 2022 @03:23PM (#31644800)
Yeah. The "nm" in a node designation is nothing but marketing now, since 3D FET designs have completely changed what "nm" means.
Re:Apple Unveils M2 by refulgentis on Monday June 06, 2022 @05:27PM (#31646523)
They were two ahead at launch (to wit, comparisons were against 10th gen Intel)
Re:Apple Unveils M2 by out_of_protocol on Monday June 06, 2022 @04:11PM (#31645537)
Can we switch to MT/mm2? (millions of transistors per square millimeter)