Well, the NSA and CIA and the State Department have long claimed that their cyber-espionage activities have nothing to do with securing economic information for the advantage of say, US oil companies, right?

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/longhorn-cybe...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-bra...

Those claims seem to be false. Engaging in cyber-espionage (and indeed, going to war) for economic advantage seems to be the name of the game. Why not just be honest about it, instead of spouting all this pablum about 'defending democracy and human rights'?

> Why not just be honest about it, instead of spouting all this pablum about 'defending democracy and human rights'?

Maybe the actual decisionmakers of the world all already know how the world works.

You want a citation for secret stuff the spook agencies do?

Are you kidding me?

I'm not taking sides either way, but Hitchens's Razor does still apply here (i.e. "claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence").

In this case, some people have industry knowledge and some trust is in order