Re:I cheated on my Microsoft interview (2019)
by franga2000 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @04:36PM
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> the current techbro rituals
As someone who's never interviewed at FAANG and only ever gotten either relevant (paid!) take-home programming assignments or the CS101 bullshit the author talked about, what do you mean by that?
Re:I cheated on my Microsoft interview (2019)
by jasonladuke0311 on Sunday June 05, 2022 @04:46PM
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Probably Leetcode stuff. “You have 45 minutes to solve these two problems that were doctoral theses of famous programmers. Go.”
Earlier in my career (a few years before Google seemed to start the current techbro rituals), I went to an interview at a big-name CS dept. spinoff company which had the same problem: CS students and professors with no professional software engineering experience deciding what's most important for professional software engineers to know.
The interviewer and I were both senior engineers at well-regarded companies, but he gave me a coding exercise (this was not usual, at the time), and it was a CS101 tree traversal coding exercise in C. I'd happened to remember that day of class from community college, and I just did the exercise. Nothing to brag about.
Then he said "no one ever did it that fast before". So, feeling very confident and a bit disappointed/surprised, I started telling him what I thought was a better way to do interviews for software engineers. (Spoiler: it didn't involve regurgitating CS101 algorithms a person randomly happened to recall.)
I got the offer, and accepted the job, partly because we had a collegial discussion about the interview methods. Very smart and likeable people. But there were a lot of people who arrived from top university departments not knowing how to do software engineering nor even how to do non-homework computer programming, but they apparently passed the interview of the CS undergrads' idea of what's important to software engineering.
(Actually, the person from there who I noticed on LinkedIn many years later as eventually most accomplished from there, was the only one I knew came from a commuter state school, rather than from a big-name CS department. I don't know whether he would've gotten in, once techbro rituals took over. Maybe he would've, if his school's department had switched to teaching to the techbro interview; though, then, maybe that would've been at the cost of whatever skills development later helped him be so successful.)