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Re:Rust Is Hard, Or: The Misery of Mainstream Programming by CraigJPerry on Saturday June 04, 2022 @03:38AM (#31617973)
That’s fascinating, what would you say obscures clarity?

Go: https://go.dev/play/p/s4TTZeo7Gse

Rust: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&editio...

For me, i reckon the Go type machinery is more verbose in this case, e.g. the isShape method to tag Circle as a shape - that just feels awkward to me.

The cyclomatic complexity is identical for both though.

Re:Rust Is Hard, Or: The Misery of Mainstream Programming by skohan on Saturday June 04, 2022 @08:36AM (#31619594)
Yeah exactly, imo the way the Go version requires you to declare an interface, in this case with a no-op method essentially acting as a tag, and declare conformance on your types is quite noisy and feels like a hack.

Also I prefer with Rust-style sum types that the declaration happens in one place. In the Go version your Shape types could be scattered around all over the place, which makes it harder to parse and understand if you're reading unfamiliar code.

Re:Rust Is Hard, Or: The Misery of Mainstream Programming by preseinger on Sunday June 05, 2022 @02:45PM (#31633731)
This Go code is wildly non-idiomatic. Type assertions via `.(type)` are a tool of last resort, not something that an application developer should turn to as a solution to a problem, and certainly not post-1.18, which permits generics.

edit: e.g. https://go.dev/play/p/wDO5J8CElSC

Re:Rust Is Hard, Or: The Misery of Mainstream Programming by CraigJPerry on Monday June 06, 2022 @12:43PM (#31642730)
Hey thanks for sharing this, I think this has lost track of the problem though, remember we're looking for the alternative to rust's:

    enum Shape {
        None,
        Circle(radius: usize),
    }
In your version we've lost the Shape concept, to make it more explicit, what's the idiomatic go version of:

    enum Shape {
        Circle(usize),
        Rectangle{length: usize, breadth: usize},
    }
https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&editio...
Re:Rust Is Hard, Or: The Misery of Mainstream Programming by preseinger on Thursday June 09, 2022 @12:02AM (#31677432)
There is no way to express an enum whose possible values are of different types.

In Go code will typically "offer" concrete types, and "accept" abstract interfaces. Abstractions over concrete types are expressed by consumers who want to operate on those types, rather than producers who provide implementations of them. So your Shape would probably end up an interface defined by whatever consuming code wanted to treat Circles and Rectangles equivalently.