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Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by m_st on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:27AM (#31605280)
Why is this downvoted?

I'm not Italian but know some expats and they do indeed have family members that stopped legally working because they didn't want the Covid vaccine.

Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by xxs on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:35AM (#31605331)
> Why is this downvoted?

Claiming Italy invented the organized crime, i.e. - cosa nostra. The origins are deeper.

Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by m_st on Friday June 03, 2022 @03:55AM (#31605476)
Yeah OK I mentally skipped this point. But still astonished to hear that the Covid vaccine is still a requirement in all jobs in Italy.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by xxs on Friday June 03, 2022 @04:23AM (#31605673)
Even so, if the post starts with an obvious falsehood - unrelated to the topic at hand, the rest has no merits to me. It's written in bad faith.
Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by justsomeguy123 on Saturday June 04, 2022 @05:39AM (#31618544)
I'd say you are approaching the talk in bad faith.

A talk is not a logical proof. A wrong phrase does not imply everything else following is wrong.

Seem silly to dismiss the 2nd phrase because you disagree with the 1st.

But sure, if you wrap it in fancy talk, it almost sounds like you are right.

Re:Italy Is Held Back by 2.6M People Who Have Given Up on Work by smcl on Friday June 03, 2022 @04:05AM (#31605540)
I'm not sure that anecdotal data about you knowing a couple of antivaxxers explains why roughly four percent of the population are long-term unemployed. I can believe that some of those 2.6m are in that situation because of their position on covid vaccination, but it's a huge leap to assume this very new thing is the main reason especially given that Italy famously has a large number of officially unemployed people (which is trending down from its peak around 2015)