You can nutpick to find people saying anything, of course.
Show me someone in a position of power saying that. I think they closest you'll find is someone like AOC, who has gone nowhere near that.
> The AFL-CIO looks (or at least looked) like the same thing, but for unions.
The AFL-CIO has been in decline for several decades. If you want to tar, say, the Amazon efforts with things the AFL-CIO did in the 60s, you're just making my point for me.
I don't know whether that was a typo or deliberate, but it's beautiful. I'm stealing it.
Yes, you absolutely can find a nut who will say anything - even several nuts. Absolutely. But in this case, I think it's a bit stronger than that. I see it too often. It could be just a few loudmouths saying the same thing over and over, but to me it feels more like, say, 5% of HN users actually believe that. True, that's far less than the number who believe "all unions are evil", but it still seems to me to be enough people to be significant.
> If you want to tar, say, the Amazon efforts with things the AFL-CIO did in the 60s, you're just making my point for me.
Well, I didn't want to do that, so don't put that on me. All I wanted to say is that, as corporations can collude (or at least appear to), so can unions, and we have historical examples of it happening - and, unlike corporate collusion, happening formally and in the open.
Oh yes they do. "All corporations are evil exploitive money-grubbing polluting anti-democratic anti-worker..." I've seen it, here on HN, on the regular. I don't recall if I've seen it today, but I see it a lot.
> ... even though (if you look at interlocking BoD membership) there's a more reasonable case to be made for collusion in some industries...
The AFL-CIO looks (or at least looked) like the same thing, but for unions.