Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen portable

Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by avmich on Thursday June 02, 2022 @01:34PM (#31598006)

Hydrogen alone clearly has more energy density than batteries. The question is how much hydrogen containers would reduce that advantage. So far hydrogen at least has the benefit of speed of refilling. In some applications, like aviation, hydrogen could bring benefit of reducing mass with spent fuel, something which batteries don't do.

I think 5kg containers for 3.3kWh is a good number, especially comparing with batteries, which had recent decades of targeted development. At least the technology is nowhere near of clearly losing to alternatives. "Green hydrogen" can definitely be obtained without generating CO2, the questions are elsewhere.

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Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by Robotbeat on Thursday June 02, 2022 @07:20PM (#31601857)

Hydrogen fuel cells were developed in the 1830s (concept developed in 1801), commercialized in the 1930s, and the first hydrogen fuel cell vehicles were developed in the 1950s. Was used in NASA’s Gemini program. Rechargeable Lithium ion is relatively new, having started development only in the 1960s and in modern form not until the 1980s, being used for practical applications only starting in the 1990s.

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Re:Toyota’s prototype 'cartridge' is a way to make hydrogen ... by avmich on Friday June 03, 2022 @10:16PM (#31616253)

I know all of that and still would consider efforts which went into recent batteries technologies as more targeted and supported by industry, than similar for hydrogen-based power transformations.

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