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Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by jghn on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @08:59PM (#31590095)
> DevOps is the idea that there shouldn't be separate "dev" and "ops" organizations,

I agree with this definition of DevOps. However the vast, vast, vaaaast majority of real life uses of the term "DevOps" I've seen are just rebranded sysadmins. Sometimes it at least implies a more engineering approach to their coding. But in these institutions the Devs and Ops are very much separate groups of people, unfortunately.

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Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by thewileyone on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @09:53PM (#31590406)
Agreed. The DevOps that I'm familiar with is two job descriptions in one job, one headcount, one pay.
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Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by 0xBDB on Saturday June 04, 2022 @02:28PM (#31623630)
I agree. I think the grandparent is maybe describing an ideal state, but in practice most "DevOps" and "SRE" positions I see go by on job boards are for either sysadmins who can do some automation and infrastructure as code, or possibly devs who know how cloud infrastructure and networking work, depending on your perspective.

If you're lucky the hiring manager might have at least read the Phoenix Project or the Google SRE books.

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