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Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by dijit on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @02:32PM (#31586122)
> My second job in large-scale software was at Google, which used the "DevOps model" since before DevOps was named. I have no need to read a blog on it.

Cool, you probably know my old colleague Hugo, he was one of the first SRE's at Google in a team of like 20 or so. (I wasn't there, could be mistaken).

Anyway, what "Production" was, is different than what devops is. DevOps is different things to different people. In the beginning it was "What happens when systems administrators do Agile".

(Genuinely), Confusion came about because of the "100 deploys a day" talk and the conference being called "dev ops days" (to include developers).

The two things got conflated and now everyone thinks devops are.. well, build engineers or sysadmins or developers who learned a bit of bash and terraform.

Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by volume on Wednesday June 01, 2022 @08:18PM (#31589820)
> build engineers or sysadmins or developers who learned a bit of bash and terraform.

From what I have seen, it's also getting familiar with the inner workings and process of the company, as well as current and past runtime tendencies for performance and uptime.

Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by dijit on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:11AM (#31594396)
> it's also getting familiar with the inner workings and process of the company, as well as current and past runtime tendencies for performance and uptime.

That sounds like sysadmins.

Re:Ask HN: If Kubernetes is the solution, why are there so m... by volume on Thursday June 02, 2022 @11:00AM (#31595720)
let's say there's 5+ leading definitions of DevOps. I'll add this which I think is quite unpopular but true:

DevOps is how Engineering respects the work of sysadmins.