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Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by hailpixel on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @06:22AM (#3157896)
I'm a founder of Lyst, one of the companies who will be involved in the event. I have two theories about why the traction for so-to-be graduates hasn't been amazing.

1) Location. While London is definitely business and cultural center of Britain, I believe it's a bit of a slog for students to travel down to the recruitments fair, especially since most of the best universities are located outside of the city. SO going to them would definitely help.

2) Most of the companies pitching are relatively unknown to the general masses. My best hires are people who either approached us because they like why we're doing, or people in my professional circles. Professional developers fit nicely into these two buckets, were most students don't. Great companies like Tuxebo and Conversocial don't really have mass appeal. Subsequently, it's hard to get a student who doesn't truly understand the company/space excited about being a part of the team.

The second problem is even further exacerbated as early startups don't want "employees". They want "Employee #1"; someone who is passionate and ready to help push the company forward.

It's a tricky problem.

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by jlind on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @11:14AM (#3158898)
The second problem is even further exacerbated as early startups don't want "employees". They want "Employee #1"; someone who is passionate and ready to help push the company forward.

I'm in my senior year of college here in the US and this definitely nails it for me. I've had some solid internships where I've done actual coding / ops / etc, but I don't feel like I'm at the technical level where I could graduate and make huge impacts for a startup.

Are startups who are past the "Employee #1" phase (or even employees 2-5, I'd imagine) in a different position in regards to this? (ie more willing to bring on a recent grad, because they already have strong technical employees/leadership pushing the company forward)

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by hailpixel on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @11:31AM (#3158989)
My company is early stage still & we still have a very high bar for developers. That said, I hire based on a persons ability to perform, not the time they've been doing it.

If you have a github & portfolio that shows you can create, have an interest in what my company does, and can pitch it to me, I'd hire you.

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by jlind on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @11:44AM (#3159034)
Maybe this is something that many grads might not realize too, as it's quite different in contrast with hiring processes associated with Enterprise Company XYZ.

It's one of my favorite parts about startup culture in general, though. Whenever I hear people saying stuff like this (re: hiring performance vs experience) my first thought is almost always "where do I sign up?!"

Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by SaintSal on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @06:43AM (#3157966)
Location is a good point. Never underestimate the laziness of students when it comes to transit. They're used to living in a village.
Re:Ask HN: Why don't more UK graduates want to join start-ups? by zeemonkee on Wednesday October 26, 2011 @08:11AM (#3158216)
Or expense, including accommodation.