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Re:1x Engineer by zamadatix on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @10:32AM (#31569931)
The 1x and 10x can much easier change into a high paying job at another company that doesn't pay all of its developers the same. The problem with that is a lot more people think they are 10x and others 0.1x when in reality most are ~1x so that leads to a lot of surprise about how even the pay is though.
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Re:1x Engineer by koonsolo on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @10:49AM (#31570160)
I only have experience in EU, and here I think a 10x might be able to get max 20% more. In practice, they might love the job more than the pay, and so make as much as the rest. The ones earning more money are the ones who negotiate.

Edit: Sorry my explanation wasn't complete. In my opinion, getting a 10x developer has more to do with the work environment than with the developer. Some companies or structures just don't allow you to be a 10x developer.

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Re:1x Engineer by 908B64B197 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @05:16PM (#31575053)
> in EU, and here I think a 10x might be able to get max 20% more.

More like 200% more.

There's a lot of Europeans here in the Valley, but almost no Americans in Europe. There's a reason for that. There are also "dark matter devs" in Europe that are working remotely for SV companies, at SV salaries. They simply won't ever show up for interviews at local companies.

> In my opinion, getting a 10x developer has more to do with the work environment than with the developer.

I recall a story someone told me a while ago. Software business that did local CoL/prevailing wages. Hired an intern one summer that was just running around in circles around the other, more senior devs. Next summer they tried to get him back but he was already at a large search engine company down in the Bay. Of course, he wouldn't return. That's when they realized a whole class of engineers were completely invisible to them; they lucked out hiring him that summer but there was no chance they could attract someone like him full time.

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