Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by Fnoord on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @03:26AM
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Gelatine is a by-product of pig bone marrow which we have in surplus compared to pig meat consumption. Not one animal more will die when you decide to buy and consume a product containing gelatine. I mean, I respect the goal, but there's better choices to be made. If you want to avoid all products remotely containing pig (by-)product its a tough call. See e.g. book "Pig 05049" by Christien Meindertsma. She also gave a TED talk.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by dkyc on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @11:05AM
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The demand for gelatine would contribute to the pig meat revenue stream, offsetting costs and thereby (at least ever so slightly) decreasing the cost of pork, leading (in theory) to increased consumption.
Whether that effect is large enough to be noticeable is questionable, and I definitely agree there could be "better choices", but it's not exactly right to say that it has no impact.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by Fnoord on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @04:06PM
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If its like with whey, its in such abundance that they pay people to buy it. Either way, the revenue stream would be very little higher because of the huge abundance. You're much better off simply eating less pig meat.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by ajmurmann on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @12:50AM
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AFAIK it wasn't taxes, but they wanted to expand but weren't able to build the expansion in their Bad Godesberg location, so they moved to the Grafschaft.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by xwdv on Monday May 30, 2022 @10:50PM
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That would probably make you a gelatinarian, not a vegetarian.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by JetAlone on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @02:17AM
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Gelatin is a by-product, eating it supports the profitability of animal slaughter.
Yet still, there seems to be some distance between eating it and the behaviour of that one guy in Scott Pilgrim who loses his veganchad super powers because "Chicken's not vegan?".
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by colordrops on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @04:03AM
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It's an animal product, plain and simple. To base ethics on whether the product is in the critical path for profitability doesn't seem much different from vegan chicken eaters.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by xwdv on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @09:33AM
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Nope. If you eat it I don’t think you can really be a vegetarian. You cannot launder food until it becomes vegetarian. If an animal was killed off for you to consume a product, it is not vegetarian and consuming one won’t make you vegetarian. To me it’s no different than “vegetarians” who still indulge in bacon because it happens to be really tasty.
It is not too late though to give up gelatin based gummy bears and eat ethically the rest of your life.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by JetAlone on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @11:21PM
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Or we can choose to reply as sanctimonious radicals. I'm experienced at working that angle too.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by xwdv on Thursday June 02, 2022 @12:53PM
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If someone only wants to be vegetarian when it’s convenient, they should just say that.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by wahnfrieden on Monday May 30, 2022 @10:52PM
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There are innovations for vegan ones
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by tannhaeuser on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @12:34AM
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Some Haribo products without gelatine/collagen from pig are marked as "halal" for consumption by muslim people.
Re:Haribo Goldbears, the world’s first gummy bears
by user3939382 on Tuesday May 31, 2022 @12:42AM
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Some products have this label due to fish gelatin.
Another funny thing is that as a vegetarian I realized quite late that this is a meat product (gelantine). It remains the only "meat" I eat kind of regularly because, as mentioned somewhere, they are still the best.