Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by tshaddox on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:07PM
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Seems like there are two very different modes of development being mentioned here. You seem to be describing a mode where you just need to concentrate and bang out your lines of code for the day. The previous comment seems to be referring to creative, collaborative development. The industry probably needs both, but I’m much more personally interested in the latter, and I’m worried that async/remote is disastrous for that mode in ways that might not be realized for years. To use a crude example, if you’re in a rock band composing songs together, you would never consider that suggesting a change to the riff the bass player is playing would be “an interruption that cost them 20 minutes of focus.”
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Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by ipaddr on Sunday May 29, 2022 @02:07PM
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Your not the bass player you are the record label worrying about if a single exists.
If you interrupt the songwriter every 20 minutes because you have a question around lighting you end up without a song.
Many rock bands create their parts separately or one person creates it all and everyone else learns the material.
Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by tshaddox on Sunday May 29, 2022 @02:28PM
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Surely it would be managers or executives that would be analogous to the record label executives. We’re talking about ICs on a collaborative team.
Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by ekianjo on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:10PM
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> To use a crude example, if you’re in a rock band composing songs together, you would never consider that interrupting the bass player to suggest a slightly different riff would be “an interruption that cost them 20 minutes of focus
Bad analogies are not very persuasive
Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by tshaddox on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:37PM
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If you think software development can be a collaborative creative process, it’s really not a terrible analogy.
Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by ekianjo on Monday May 30, 2022 @07:25AM
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This analogy sucks because a rock band cannot make songs without actually playing together over and over again. You can however build software in modules or independent parts as long as you have clear specs about what each part should do and proper testing. Thats why you can outsource some software dev but you cannot outsource a rock band.
Terrible analogy.
If you want to pick something that makes more sense to compare, it would be something that is engineering related.
Re:Workers quitting over return-to-office policies
by tshaddox on Monday May 30, 2022 @12:13PM
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> You can however build software in modules or independent parts as long as you have clear specs about what each part should do and proper testing.
Where do these clear specs come from? That’s the creative process I’m talking about.