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Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by detritus on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:10AM (#31549737)
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by aquaphile on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:26AM (#31549867)
Oh the irony. This is the Pelican program restart. Circa 2005. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican

Pelican was a ground-effect heavy lift aircraft, too. DARPA refused to fund any Pelican developmental work 20 years ago because the “Technology has been demonstrated already” (by the Russians).

I had the privilege of working for the people who did the concept of operations work.

Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:12AM (#31549279)
I sincerely wish them luck with that. It would definitely be cool, if they could get it to work, but this part:

> highly controlled flight close to turbulent water surfaces

Has been a "heavy lift" for ekranoplan designers for decades.

Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by bell-cot on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:58AM (#31549636)
Yep. I've never heard "batting average" figures for DARPA, but they are the government's "pie in the sky" long-shot research folks.
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday May 29, 2022 @12:04PM (#31550209)
I've always enjoyed The Register's view on DARPA. They treat them as if they were Frankenstein's Playpen.
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by LunarCamper on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:51AM (#31549578)
So the Caspian sea monster, but make it American by adding words like "liberty" and "freedom" to the name? Got it.
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by renewiltord on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:55AM (#31549612)
Considering they mentioned the ekranoplans in the linked article this seems like just a low quality regurgitation.

American naming schemes tend to be like this. It's just branding.

Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by rst on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:16AM (#31549778)
The depicted images didn't show a ground-effect vehicle, which seems odd -- it fits the job and is much more economical than the winged plane shown.
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by jhgb on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:34AM (#31549955)
There's the mention of "sustained flight at mid-altitudes". Perhaps the intention is for this to be able to fly over land as well? Maybe by sacrificing some cargo capacity in mid-altitude flights?
Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by CoastalCoder on Sunday May 29, 2022 @11:15AM (#31549773)
I wasn't aware of that pattern.

Can you give some examples of Americans doing this more than other peoples?

Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by jitl on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:16PM (#31550809)
> doing this more than other peoples

I don’t think a pattern needs to be exceptional to be notable.

The first example that comes to mind is Freedom Fries (lol) https://www.google.com/search?q=freedom+fries&ie=UTF-8&oe=UT...

Re:Liberty Lifter Aims to Revolutionize Heavy Air Lift by Gimpei on Sunday May 29, 2022 @10:55AM (#31549617)
Spruce Goose 2?