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Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by eropple on Saturday May 28, 2022 @10:30AM (#31540615)
> You can then put all the internet-of-things jazz into THAT BOX and not in each light.

How do you propose to do this in a lamp or a can light with a standard light socket? Should I rip open my ceiling and add control wires to every can that's in there?

These bulbs don't have the smarts in them just because nobody thought of doing otherwise. The world is mostly made of legacy infrastructure. Hue will sell you lamps that don't use E26 bulbs, but you're not going to be changing the lights out later if you want to use something else.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by crispyambulance on Sunday May 29, 2022 @06:42AM (#31548075)
> Should I rip open my ceiling and add control wires to every can that's in there?

Yes. Eventually. Or, more practically, do it right in new construction.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by eropple on Sunday May 29, 2022 @01:23PM (#31550877)
So now there are two standards that are mutually exclusive--"works in every light made in the last hundred years" and "the other one".

I sense great commercial success here, telling people to run LV to every HV can light. And how about--you know--a lamp? Like the one standing on my floor right now, with nowhere to place an external box? Should we redesign them all for this new standard that doesn't address actual pain points? How do we power the control boxed? Does every lamp now have a chaining 120V and you need to hang an AC adapter off it, then weasel control wires into the lamp shade? Or do we expect them to output 12V in case you want to run them with automated controls? Or do we expect them to just pick a vendor, build in their control box and you throw out the lamp if the software sucks? In a lamp?

This solves a problem people don't have through the time-tested strategy of making people think more, do more work, and be more annoyed. I think I'm seeing why it doesn't exist.

Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by crispyambulance on Sunday May 29, 2022 @05:17PM (#31552953)
I am talking about permanent fixtures here. And anyway, there ARE 12VDC lights without a bunch of electronics junk inside them. They're readily available for folks and designers who want _really_ _nice_ lighting.
Re:Investing in lighting did great things for my mental and ... by eropple on Sunday May 29, 2022 @05:55PM (#31553264)
Having different protocols for inbuilts and furnishings does not seem like a recipe for success.

(And yes, I know about 12VDC lights; I have a studio full of them, with DMX controls. They're not consumer-friendly.)