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Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by potatototoo99 on Friday May 27, 2022 @06:54PM (#31535867)
>These people are really fond of the number called «market cap.» All that means, though, is whatever the last price for a coin was multiplied by all the coins in existence. What it doesn’t mean is that you can convert all of them into real money at this price.

What kind of criticism is this, it works exactly the same in the stock market. Jeff Bezos doesn't have billions on some bank account either, and if he tried to liquidate his stocks he'd get pennies on the dollar.

Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by flurie on Friday May 27, 2022 @08:07PM (#31536361)
If I own a battleship, its turning radius is a meaningful metric. If I own a millionth of a battleship, I probably didn't buy in on the strength of its turning radius.
Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by CPLX on Friday May 27, 2022 @08:28PM (#31536464)
Yes but if you buy all his stocks you get a big chunk of Amazon, the company. If you buy up the rest of it held by other people you’d have all of the warehouses, brand equity, employment contracts, software, computers, and inventory. All of it.

The market cap has some relationship (not 1:1 but strongly correlated) to what you’d have to pay to get all that stuff. And if you’d had that stuff you’d be rich. Because those things, together, are intensely valuable and capable of producing cash flow.

By contrast if you bought up 100% of a specific cryptocurrency you’d have nothing. Like absolutely nothing at all.

This is literal. Do a thought experiment and decide what would happen if somehow you suddenly took possession of every single Bitcoin in existence and nobody else could get one without you giving it to them. What, exactly, do you think would happen then?

Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by fennecfoxen on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:25PM (#31536764)
There are equivalent cases in the meme stock world. GameStop, in particular, had an abnormally high market cap because of anomalous trading. If you hold onto it forever all you have is a dumb little videogame sales company worth a fraction of what you paid for it.

Meme stocks are quite interesting in that they are essentially like blockchain-driven asset bubbles, but without the blockchain. This has many advantages! It’s quite easy to trade stocks.

Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by darkerside on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:42PM (#31536855)
Well, if you literally owned every dollar in existence, those would become worthless pretty fast, too.
Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by CPLX on Saturday May 28, 2022 @12:22AM (#31537586)
That’s right. And dollars don’t have a “market cap” either.

Nobody “invests” in literal dollars because they aren’t a productive investment either.

Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by darkerside on Saturday May 28, 2022 @08:20AM (#31539747)
That's different from trying to imply that crypto is worthless and can't store value
Re:Magic Doesn‘t Happen, Especially Not in Business by giantrobot on Friday May 27, 2022 @08:01PM (#31536324)
This fact is actually news to a distressing number of people. Even on HN market cap is talked about like it's a giant corporate bank account. "Trillion dollar company can't do X" is an all too common refrain.