Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target Hosts (2021)

Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by dgellow on Friday May 27, 2022 @08:53AM (#31529013)

I already use a pi-hole for our local network, everything msn, windows, microsoft related is already blocked for all our devices, so it's really not a big task. It's also not a big task to maintain the list of domain to block, every few months I find a new one to add. I also don't mind some level of telemetry.

And I personally like Windows as an operating system, NT is a very cool and well documented technology, and since WSL has been available it is also my favorite Linux desktop experience. For a while my main complaints where about the frustrating dev experience (mostly for web stuff, tooling often only consider a Unix environment), and the lack of package manager, but WSl + Windows Terminal + winget is just fantastic. And that's without talking about more niche things, such as the awesome Sysinternal Suite (so many hidden gem here!), the event system, powershell (looks ridiculous when you first read about it but it's such a ridiculously powerful shell once you discover that you can interact with .Net classes), Win32 APIs, etc.

(Edit: I say this as a relatively recent convert to Windows, I started with Mac OS classic, then OS X, then ArchLinux for years, so the majority of my experience has been with Unix environments)

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by cyberpunk on Friday May 27, 2022 @08:57AM (#31529065)

You're assuming they're not just going to start using their own DNS or DoH for these requests.

Orwell got things slightly wrong in 1984; he never realized that we would be paying for the privilege of being spied on.

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by dgellow on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:12AM (#31529200)

My personal assumption is that Microsoft isn't a malicious actor, so yes I don't expect them to try to dodge domain blocking. I also don't see their telemetry as spying, everything I've seen so far tells me that they only use gathered data in aggregate as a replacement for QA, and without PII (unless you decide to report crashes, send feedbacks, or take part in their insider program) and they seem to respect user settings regarding personalized ads.

But I don't like that you have so much advertising in the default Windows and Edge experience and understand the general frustration regarding telemetry, not everybody can control their network the way I do just to have a reasonable experience...

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by andi999 on Friday May 27, 2022 @09:01AM (#31529101)

Windows 10/11 would be cool (I really liked 7), if you could buy a professional version. (not the one they call so). I dont want ads and telemetrics.

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by p1peridine on Friday May 27, 2022 @01:51PM (#31532548)

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC?

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by andi999 on Friday May 27, 2022 @02:14PM (#31532849)

Yes. I like that. Minor nitpick: wsl support was a bit behind

Mayor nitpick: can you buy it, if you are not a big coorp?

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Re:Windows OS, Services and Apps: Network Connection Target ... by p1peridine on Friday May 27, 2022 @02:29PM (#31533053)

> can you buy it, if you are not a big coorp?

I wouldn't know because I 'found it online' (if you know what I mean).

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