Re:Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of Ameri...
by mulmen on Thursday May 26, 2022 @10:26PM
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> Well certainly. I have to use what I consider civilized. It’s quite possible that our opinions on what constitutes that differ.
Is it your assertion then that the United States is not a civilized country?
> I think what it comes down to, for me, is that I just fundamentally cannot consider anything that doesn’t happen on the federal level significant.
Please do not attribute your ignorance to indifference on the part of Americans.
> Strict regulations on guns in one state/city are pointless if you can just drive over to the next and fill up. It also makes things needlessly complicated for gun owners.
Perhaps. It’s still a barrier. This is how the laboratory of democracy makes progress.
> My point is that while americans in a specific location may care, I cannot consider Americans (capital) to be doing something unless the federal government acts.
Semantics, moving the goal posts.
> If you consider the fact that they cannot as ‘deliberate and fundamental’ to your society, and you’d rather have these shootings than infringe on that, then by all means. But I will never be able to understand that.
Please don’t put words in my mouth. This is such a gross mischaracterization of my words that I can only assume it is deliberate.
> In my opinion the whole reason for the federal government to exist is that they can act in situations like these.
The US Federal Government operates on the rule of law. Not on your opinion.
Is it your assertion then that the United States is not a civilized country?
> I think what it comes down to, for me, is that I just fundamentally cannot consider anything that doesn’t happen on the federal level significant.
Please do not attribute your ignorance to indifference on the part of Americans.
> Strict regulations on guns in one state/city are pointless if you can just drive over to the next and fill up. It also makes things needlessly complicated for gun owners.
Perhaps. It’s still a barrier. This is how the laboratory of democracy makes progress.
> My point is that while americans in a specific location may care, I cannot consider Americans (capital) to be doing something unless the federal government acts.
Semantics, moving the goal posts.
> If you consider the fact that they cannot as ‘deliberate and fundamental’ to your society, and you’d rather have these shootings than infringe on that, then by all means. But I will never be able to understand that.
Please don’t put words in my mouth. This is such a gross mischaracterization of my words that I can only assume it is deliberate.
> In my opinion the whole reason for the federal government to exist is that they can act in situations like these.
The US Federal Government operates on the rule of law. Not on your opinion.