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Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by arethuza on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @04:41AM (#31501956)
I didn't think a VAX 11/780 was considered a mainframe - rather a minicomputer?
Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by lproven on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @09:11AM (#31504021)
Agreed.

The VAX 9000 range tried to become mainframes, and the effort to make them bankrupted DEC.

But there are non-IBM mainframes. They do run under emulation on x86, but they are still real. Unisys Clearpath, for instance.

Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by arethuza on Wednesday May 25, 2022 @10:46AM (#31505321)
The CS course I did in the 1980s had us use a Burroughs mainframe for the first year (complete with MCP) - I think this was a cunning ploy to make us really appreciate Unix when we got to use for the remaining three years....
Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by lproven on Thursday May 26, 2022 @04:08AM (#31515902)
Just curious: in what ways?

I started out on VAXen before I learned DOS or Xenix, and frankly, I preferred it.

File versioning was wonderful and with that as a basis, we'd never have needed the vile baroque mess that is Git.

Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by arethuza on Thursday May 26, 2022 @05:42AM (#31516419)
The Burroughs user environment was a thing called CANDE - which really wasn't much fun at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANDE

Re:Has Mainframe Computing Inadvertently Started Its Own Cul... by lproven on Friday May 27, 2022 @04:02AM (#31527145)
How odd. That sounds very strange, but now I want to try it. :-)