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Re:Ask HN: Where is the best place to learn .php? by ashconnor on Monday October 24, 2011 @06:06AM (#3148929)
The OP asked where to learn PHP, not a bunch of frameworks.
Re:Ask HN: Where is the best place to learn .php? by apsurd on Monday October 24, 2011 @11:02AM (#3149886)
People dislike PHP because it's very easy to pick up bad habits and create poor code in PHP.

Adopting proper OO and MVC patterns from a well-made PHP framework will help OP become a much better programmer as apposed to a guy that can google php-scripts.

Also, the php frameworks above are certainly a lot less magicky than a framework like Rails which, for what it's worth, yes I agree is not the best way to learn ruby.

@OP I recommended you learn through a framework for good reason. Becoming a better php programmer means following good coding standars/patterns. People dislike php because its very easy to write bad code - I don't want you to write bad code.