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Re:Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagre... by alkaloid on Monday May 23, 2022 @01:50PM (#31482425)
You know followers of "religion" invented empiricism (and logic and rhetoric, etc.), right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bacon

Re:Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagre... by v-erne on Monday May 23, 2022 @04:11PM (#31484236)
And nazis literally invented rockets science that allowed us to explore solar system. So whats Your point? Because clearly you are not seeing that people are not rational but rather rationalizing. Which sometimes leads them to invent useful things like empiricism, and other times things that are not so useful (ideologies, religions etc)
Re:Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagre... by riskable on Monday May 23, 2022 @02:22PM (#31483005)
You know followers of <insert any random thing> invented <any random thing>, right?

There's no dots to connect between one thing and the other. Someone can be a hardcore Catholic and invent an abortion device or an atheist could come up with a fancy new way of manufacturing crosses. Their stance on religion is irrelevant.

Re:Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagre... by alkaloid on Monday May 23, 2022 @02:27PM (#31483088)
In this case, there are lots of dots. There are a disproportionate amount of Catholic priests represented within the scientific sphere, including the vast majority of famous ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_clergy_scient... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lay_Catholic_scientist...

Re:Why is it traitorous to understand the people you disagre... by riskable on Monday May 23, 2022 @02:49PM (#31483385)
Again, what are you trying to say here? Some scientists are Catholics? Some of them are even famous? What does that have to do with anything?