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Re:How This Ends by noduerme on Monday May 23, 2022 @01:01AM (#31475475)
I wonder to what degree generational culture plays a part. My father, for example (born pre-WWII), would never buy growth stocks. Not even when he was young. He bought only dividend yielding stocks, reinvested 100% of the dividends and never sold anything until his retirement. My generation (X) has a more balanced approach, with a mix of growth and value stocks dependent on risk tolerance, trending toward value stocks the older we get. Moreover, a lot of us learned some hard lessons from the first internet bubble.

Granted that they're still younger and should be in a more risk-tolerant phase of life, but what I see in Millennials, and Gen Z especially, is a culture of growth-only, with no interest in boring old investments that are intended to earn and build value over long timescales. I think at least some of this has to do with the gamification of investing; in my Dad's time, a normal person couldn't just sit at a brokerage and watch a stock ticker all day. Free trading has intensified it by removing the barriers to full-time gambling. Remember that Millennials are a much larger generation and we're just still early in the period when they're growing wealth; I wonder if what we're seeing isn't the beginning of what it will take to change the culture... or if we'll continue to see endless bubbles because the steady-as-she-goes, long term investment mentality is just disappearing in the face of permanent FOMO. Sure, it's not glamorous, it won't make you a millionaire overnight, but that's really not what investing your savings should be about.

Re:How This Ends by rcpt on Monday May 23, 2022 @03:07AM (#31476103)
For young people betting on the far future looks just as crazy as GME calls
Re:How This Ends by noduerme on Monday May 23, 2022 @03:21AM (#31476177)
Yeah, I get that. And that's natural. But if a huge population swell is accustomed to treating the market as a get-rich-quick casino, the market stops serving its purpose and I guess we're in for a really bad series of shocks.
Re:How This Ends by fny on Monday May 23, 2022 @11:56AM (#31480651)
We've already reached this point. Hence Tesla $1T and shitcoin et al...

You're watching the unwind.

Re:How This Ends by SgtBastard on Monday May 23, 2022 @04:48AM (#31476649)
The scary thing for me is the 2nd order effects of this activity as companies try to act increasingly like meme stocks to boost share price and abandon all pretence of P/E ratios and profitability.
Re:How This Ends by noduerme on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @09:09PM (#31499489)
This. Also, in terms of downstream effects: Taking sibling's point, even now at $650B Tesla has market cap equivalent to the next 10 largest automakers combined, while having a P/E ratio ten times higher than Toyota, 32 times higher than BMW. Isn't the effect that other automakers are undercapitalized? The distortion of the market that's inflated Tesla has funneled investment away from productive non-meme competitors. That means layoffs and more supply chain problems. And that capital just gets wiped out when the bubble bursts, leaving a giant supply-side hole.
Re:How This Ends by noduerme on Monday May 23, 2022 @03:29AM (#31476211)
>> but that's really not what investing your savings should be about.

I just had a follow-up thought to my own post (too late to edit).

Maybe part of this culture is that many of the most aggressive young growth stock investors are not investing their savings. That is, what's been inflating these bubbles is inherited wealth being directed away from responsible investments and towards speculation. Contrary to what I'm saying, I do know a few people (not just Millennials) who have blown uncomfortably large portions of their actual earned income / work savings on bad crypto investments... but I still feel like people are more careful and conservative when they're investing money they actually worked to earn.

Or they were. Maybe the whole society tips over towards hype and FOMO when it's all we see online everyday.

Re:How This Ends by nebula8804 on Monday May 23, 2022 @10:24AM (#31479422)
Millenials are hitting their 40s. Is that really still the early phases of their growing wealth?